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cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

Posted by: Alison C.      22 Jul 2011 @ 10:05
cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

Hi

I want to move my files to my new laptop, and thought of using my cross cable. I had done this years ago, with XP and my 2 desktops, but not recently. I thought this would be a quicker way as the wireless has a slower speed than hard wiring, and I've done it before.

I'm having difficulty getting the laptops to talk to each others. I have set the IP address of each to 102.100.100.0 (and 1) but still no joy. How much different is the network set up for Vista and 7?

Just as an example, I'm moving through my wireless my music, but it's saying it's going to take a day to do - and I haven't even touched the videos yet!)

Reply by: Jon S. PCIQ IT ProfessionalIT Professional in Morecambe, LA3      22 Jul 2011 @ 14:20
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

what do you mean by a "cross cable"?
Is this a USB transfer lead, a crossover ethernet cable, a serial cross over lead, or a parallel crossover lead?
What software are you trying to use?

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Reply by: Alison C.      23 Jul 2011 @ 09:32
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

It's an ethernet cable I'm trying to use, from Vista to Windows 7. my new laptop doesn't have an optical drive, and i also want to load my Office and Ghost through my old laptop's DVD drive, by mapping it on the new windws 7 laptop, as well as moving my personal files over quicker than over the wireless.

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Reply by: Alan B. PCIQ IT ProfessionalIT Professional in Cambridge, CB22      23 Jul 2011 @ 11:40
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

Alison, I'm sure what you are trying to do is perfectly possible with a crossover Ethernet cable but I wonder if it would be easier to just connect both of your computers to your router using Ethernet cables? You must be able to connect at least your new laptop that way and that would double the transfer speed even if the old computer has a wireless connection.

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Reply by: Alison C.      23 Jul 2011 @ 14:42
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

Thanks. I'm obviously using old technology rather than new- just connecting one laptop to the router has made a big difference in the transfer speeds.

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Reply by: Alan B. PCIQ IT ProfessionalIT Professional in Cambridge, CB22      23 Jul 2011 @ 20:47
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

Yes, with wireless only one computer can use the wireless channel at a time so if you are trying to transfer data from one computer to another (via the router) then the computers have to keep taking turns and this can be quite slow. Giving one computer a wired connection allows the other to make full use of the wireless channel.

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Reply by: Alan D. PCIQ IT ProfessionalIT Professional in Oakham, LE15      23 Jul 2011 @ 22:03
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

You will get the fastest speed if you can connect both by a wired connection to the router. As they are laptops, can you not put them both near the router and connect that way? Don't worry about IP addresses, let the router handle DHCP. You may find it worth running the Windows Easy Transfer wizard. This will backup the files on the source PC and compress them to reduce the amount of data to be transmitted. If they are both on the same network, it will restore them automatically.

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Reply by: Dave C. PCIQ IT ProfessionalIT Professional in Nuneaton, CV11      25 Jul 2011 @ 22:02
RE: cross network cable between Vista and 7 (starter)

To answer your original question Alison:

There were some differences in networking between Vista and 7, mostly to do with workgroup or homegroup use. Both versions have improved (read as potentially problematic) firewall configurations over XP's offering. When a new network connection is detected, Vista and W7 should prompt you to specify whether the network is Home, Work or Public and then configure the firewall in increasing levels of security appropriately.

You can read up more on this here.

However, I think your problem stemmed from your choice of IP addresses: 102.100.100.0 is what's called a network address - it identifies the 102.100.100 network (assuming a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0). You should have used 1 and 2 rather than 0 and 1 in the last fields.

For future reference, it's good practice to use addresses in the range 192.168.0.1 -> 192.168.255.254 as these are guaranteed not to conflict with other public IP addresses on the internet - although using only a crossover cable this wouldn't have been an issue.

Interestingly, if you had left the IP addresses dynamically allocated rather than trying to explicitly specifiy addresses, the two pcs ought to have 'discovered' each other automatically using APIPA when connected via a crossover cable.

Alan's suggestion of connecting via your router was probably the 'best' quick solution. If both of your laptops had gigabit network cards fitted though (unlikely), a crossover cable would have provided a much faster transfer rate than you'd get otherwise through a 100mb/s router. So there is something to be said for using 'old technology' :-)

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